說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表 # ^; ]( D* i6 x! j3 T
学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 / `6 A* T N4 [- P& p* x
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 " [6 F- f$ ?3 x- `3 d$ O( \
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 * V" V0 X x3 D) A5 H

; ]0 }+ J' y$ x! Z5 m看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表 0 z4 f+ l( N1 f; c4 t

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不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE ( j: ?, K. j1 v: r! w: Q	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE" t- E2 @3 p8 P! Y6 l5 o
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport , t$ m; _ k h: u! Y( C; q8 \	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE & R8 X, v: s* \|3 Q# L
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE : X$ ?/ I. b8 B- D3 {' U	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX : W8 H7 ]. ~: ?- p7 J: X$ ^/ z1 t
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5, I6 P: L0 { G	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5% ]- Q; {+ s( r. n( Q
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE3 y, g, A/ t; b$ I7 M	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE 4 g! @% D8 m/ U( K* U
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE 0 e; j, I* Z' Y; ?2 m	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX & e! F& T2 t0 B, \|/ a
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid! X( }% P; ]1 z2 y2 X4 }8 Q	• 1996 Toyota Corolla $ h2 j( s1 c: ^ M
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited" D7 \|3 f6 c0 m N: i	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 ( z9 ~: d! e, K9 `1 s2 Z
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE! S' n: J/ l" [' `, {0 \* N- F	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE R8 t- e4 U8 n1 Q
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE3 N# S! V- w- a. x	• 1996 Toyota T-100 ( R1 U7 H7 d. w! T. X0 U5 Z1 x
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE 4 L8 n; j/ O- `; m	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST% g/ [) [$ d/ x1 x
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited& f' C: [4 z* T0 F	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited " u K4 q/ W5 \|) Q8 x" d
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ) y2 Q- O. T. H, J	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX * v, }; X8 y. j3 w8 o- ^
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE; s9 F5 K* G3 L; G' N	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 - \+ L' M) v/ G- h% \& k( T
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE+ s0 a; h& ]8 p1 v2 j' \|	• 1996 Toyota Tercel * y( v) d3 o% v/ W5 `, u
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ! u7 ]5 o# K( z	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX; @" j1 a, U8 ]7 t1 d" F
• 2006 Toyota Tundra 1 H$ m0 E M1 U1 E$ A5 z	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT0 `1 c4 c, v) G- o0 L
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS) j9 \|! U, o4 R9 l# E	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma ) x: p2 s: J% S; X( K
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL# z# b, g0 I% Q	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner : s& W* @: k% w, l ^
• 2006 Toyota Prius 0 ? z4 G; l* m	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX $ D/ R; f o$ l3 e& J1 T+ u' K
• 2006 Toyota Camry 4 f% X" B0 T' n; K	• 1995 Toyota Pickup 7 a( @5 @7 B4 u; K% p
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring # R0 c% c6 z. P( `1 [ i	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE " ^# ~0 f$ R. b5 Z8 s
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma " F, }+ i& M& D	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE' c7 f8 M- \( U) u
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE, A9 Y. ?( I8 N* K4 q& H0 P3 f, h2 f	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton / f: Z! w, ^: G5 E1 z z
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited # e9 W* p3 b# [3 X# \9 b( r	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 / k% N5 P' D3 s( \|) E# \|4 f& a
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner 1 d, G8 W( V$ v( J$ L- N% H. ?! r	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 6 B1 S# ^1 K6 G# s" z- f: M
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5) u7 \|" W4 r' j" K% \|( t	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX . T D' e8 [2 G. E' b1 o* @. [
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S $ }3 U) _' U# U8 \; \|0 m	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX * k7 p7 Y3 y9 B$ M' K/ k: g
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited , f6 Z( F# ~' h( A. j: Q	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 0 Y2 B0 ?6 C6 f% E& Z! l8 k
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE/ S6 g* r- I) u3 v0 o* V7 T u	• 1995 Toyota Tercel + u% p4 a0 ~4 j) v. Y8 D6 M' F& q4 f
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS : E. l4 Z& P/ r' [' {0 ?" x	• 1995 Toyota Corolla 3 O; R5 G- h% O' R* Y& y1 \|# {
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner3 @6 \( M' h- U. }+ _* w9 o	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX0 c+ h( Z; V% e- `2 ]4 v
• 2005 Toyota Tundra $ s+ c0 u( E' i! [	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE ! N& R4 N/ v2 U* O0 ^2 ]& o
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS + u3 u7 t2 l. b# L2 a8 J- R1 L	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX( e+ d5 I3 O/ @3 ^# G- r1 M& ^% q
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5 : j8 @) M% M6 r0 U3 T) Z	• 1995 Toyota T-100 & Q3 H' C. H. q2 n& {2 S
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited1 l- p7 C% w9 W7 Y. p" d3 P: z	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma , C. c9 M+ F7 q7 E: w* K. G1 C
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL1 a! d3 J7 f/ v; O4 y9 R	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE - h, d/ M7 X7 Z+ d( o
• 2005 Toyota Camry " [7 c. U7 W! [) E. s* X	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR59 m4 \|3 j( x5 g( `
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring% m6 a& t$ L* C$ J, d	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX: L$ [- P2 m8 d% a0 \! e
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE 9 H: _4 M6 ^: x9 E$ ^0 [; I	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX' K& x5 B" z3 I/ g+ V- Q$ `! M
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE% s- e g, o% n& U: T! k	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX 0 I8 b5 S' r( w. z
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited( I1 r1 N5 d) w	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR52 j$ ^! K' A1 j9 { P- h; T
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma 9 J/ L; i4 v0 J4 R6 `9 G	• 1994 Toyota Pickup ( M7 {1 g" x: ~! _% \|
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S ) l( G- y, V6 \6 X% l8 o' z	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE: R, Z9 c0 i M. v' P; E+ p- D% C
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE . ?' _" K4 k3 P' F2 B$ i	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE 3 N, }3 e1 @" d+ l" L
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited }8 z( e I: B' N: [: T v	• 1994 Toyota T-100 : E5 `$ P% T2 F
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5 ( d" x" k4 b1 Z* ]6 ]% Y6 W3 Q4 B	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5' ~. @$ q/ I9 t* y& U& S; _' R% S. {
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE- [* x2 N, W! q! [	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE % O9 p* {/ n: j/ K2 h1 r7 k, N: `
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 & N# y5 n4 T" r0 [	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX # z e$ J: M4 ]# e4 ]) k
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS 0 J8 X2 a) J% G7 }+ T% Y& g	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 8 B8 O3 `7 C2 t/ g1 C8 a) O! h
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE8 `5 ^, Y# m% C& \| W6 a- M	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE + N5 c2 g3 }1 W! i0 Q
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE ( B4 r7 }- d0 U, Z7 ]/ [/ f/ N	• 1994 Toyota Corolla 3 a+ Z( f1 e; r$ X" v
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited9 a5 ~, F F5 n0 x	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton) p6 _6 }/ \5 ]9 z
• 2005 Toyota Highlander . R a, @3 \|' K6 G! @% I' q# C. c	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE 2 \|9 C- k, w- b/ ^ Z# d# v) v
• 2005 Toyota Prius ( V; Y( u2 e$ A6 v	• 1993 Toyota Corolla 1 g0 N) N6 @" F
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE " ]( a/ m' r5 u4 z( O+ X, A$ t# F	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton/ [( k" v1 `( }
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE & D; L! \# \4 B1 ^ G5 D" Y1 p	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5) f3 y) ^. ]. A$ ]4 v
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited . t9 x% v6 t M/ _	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX / r' S+ u% n, {2 I( i# k7 i& C
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 * O' y6 C' e. p n	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX $ j) b: u6 `- R/ {6 @1 f
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE 9 r. C% w# b* ]7 p	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX / d( D: X$ f; K u
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE5 r3 [$ [; v6 L	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser ; \|* x6 C: T9 q6 w
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE- `6 S, i ^ S6 w( ~# p	• 1993 Toyota T-100 - v0 k8 x: m. S9 I' d( c5 M
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE / y3 S) i1 b4 b2 r5 q* F	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE ' U3 M# ~# h& [/ U9 p+ N) k4 l
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited" H* }" U* J+ n% z5 O	• 1993 Toyota Pickup 9 _2 \, U0 S( i1 f0 S+ L5 Q! `
• 2004 Toyota Prius ' u N) G, q" a	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE : J4 i- q1 X% `8 S. _& `$ Q, A
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma + S' Y2 q8 _! Z3 _( C j( u	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE' [$ i' S$ k% s' J: W
• 2004 Toyota Tundra # l. R7 y/ p" S3 ^( I	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5 ( d: i: j3 _/ d: R* V9 v7 R4 c: N
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE 8 L8 ]0 K+ W$ i	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 \|1 N M+ a2 {# o5 M( Y3 f) T
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited 0 N# l7 k, _% p1 \|4 \|	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE9 W) G- S+ Y* s
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited( O0 @' m. W2 \, [2 `9 z& u: Q% W	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE ! [( p' ~0 \|6 w* d/ B$ N5 e7 r
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE2 ?& W# k6 r) j4 \|' f B9 x	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX! n1 A. J, d! g# L; q& T+ c" ?
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE 5 l# i c M, e6 w. v1 ~) A$ w	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE + j) S- j6 ~+ W4 D
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE - [) [. R/ F& O5 L8 _	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac 2 w/ d! l" i& D! W
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited0 o. j1 G y4 W7 R# [5 Y	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton & ?! {+ `" v. O+ c. `0 [- \
• 2004 Toyota Highlander ( W+ M9 B( e" I3 ]- U8 o	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE. M* i; f* K3 C$ O( K7 F% Q% q4 \
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner ( T; l0 \' {. l	• 1992 Toyota Corolla / L6 A8 O! ]( e! a5 a+ m
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S+ C! O1 B% x- j6 U, `* v% z. M	• 1992 Toyota MR2 2 H2 L5 [( ?, X- x& d
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner: ^& b6 U( x+ r! T	• 1992 Toyota Pickup ; g3 r" j& v# @# \
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 * y3 Y8 Y* d4 j0 p7 R' q	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX2 f- p$ w* H" t. o h: @/ m/ s+ @
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS ! f2 _* l2 R( d% \|; n! Q, \ H% h	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac7 T. O& f3 `0 I3 c
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner+ P# v v. n, X3 x. F* R# c, z5 g: E	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5 ! t% x3 [# Z' W
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S6 j" Z- D3 [' m	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX 1 T5 U8 S& M4 u. X! V1 t
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited5 B6 \|. c- _$ a9 m: t# y0 n- g	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5 . b+ b0 R* {" Y
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner * w. ` p- y% n, L3 @$ y9 V$ Z	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser ( f* y" J- J5 l) E
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 ) u+ b7 q8 U# v; S+ M	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof/ [4 @5 f7 D0 A! F- Q3 }
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited" P$ U7 ^0 ?) k, Z4 P& A	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE' S# O/ R4 n" \% Y2 K7 c
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE - y& u* H7 W; r( F1 h1 w	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR53 _: e/ o7 o; D) P6 a+ q, X
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT) X6 w1 d( a! S/ a	• 1991 Toyota Camry # g, t2 n4 l% P$ e$ q! q
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE+ z" D- S3 Y& ~0 }: L	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 U+ v* h4 _ l7 M7 s8 O
• 2003 Toyota Highlander + {% ^! y# \|9 w5 ?! K' G	• 1991 Toyota Pickup 4 j4 E4 S' k1 r6 {/ f4 b; f
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma , R3 }0 P; b9 T! b2 A* v	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX : x2 B0 W( {$ D
• 2003 Toyota Tundra & n/ Y ]: O$ C	• 1991 Toyota MR2 Z4 h7 x- h. \|" J" B. u
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5! m; X+ M; I- X+ _
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited- i% }4 @" D) G: ?% o	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX 8 ~# D0 M4 o6 Q: ~) v
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE% k8 \+ c- h$ y9 ~& t0 _# p2 E	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac3 \|( f! ^2 @% u- B3 ]
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR56 r# g* ~0 b7 y z. j	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac: t! y& Q( m2 \3 @( J$ a2 b
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE( S S: v3 A' w2 ]: p" [	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof1 j( w' v3 ], z5 e& _
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE6 c) E- M& v, L/ n' D0 f1 p	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX4 D% m8 c- {$ H6 }" o1 Q, x
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited& n# B0 {6 _9 K2 G i, L	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE & a! F7 V) ]: F9 \|" D- L! y
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited. F& I5 o: P( s5 e1 D2 Q5 n0 _	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton % P: x" m& C. ^7 O L+ h
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited7 h, _) q$ o! Y) j( B& C& B	• 1990 Toyota Pickup - q$ W% h9 E: c8 L* ^5 P R
• 2002 Toyota ECHO ! R8 {" l( ~( v) R9 A; P" ?- x0 N0 f	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE/ G0 N5 \) v2 e( T
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE% j: M) f/ m: F	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR53 F+ q- f% k& L; f3 S
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited 6 m9 \- N3 M6 m7 w) \( y/ I8 f	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ & e f, _* g6 \|
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE 9 b7 X9 B6 _- D/ m	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT& ~5 j" A: b) I% e
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT) C$ }) N9 }1 K& ], o9 V9 Q" }	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base ) X; o' Y% `1 K9 a. F3 R
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner	• 1990 Toyota Camry 6 @4 T, G0 t% s! e5 G( P7 n' v' x# S
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S / H( n) _. {5 \. G* _0 ?' r	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST3 z v9 e* G2 g: x* @
• 2002 Toyota Highlander 0 i' ] }8 R# v% x	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX1 U/ w+ ?$ W9 a
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 1 o, [) @; m% F# y	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX ?! S! A( R F4 }
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR59 W. D: V f0 i; r$ t! Z	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5 6 Q4 X. G: K7 U
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5# } N2 X3 w% o" V	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS \3 d$ r* E% C {
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE 2 _+ g/ I8 _ n6 S	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser ) ^% L1 ~4 J$ P1 n, Y J
• 2002 Toyota Prius f. Y/ d8 Q# y& G% u	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton . D$ {! n" G- {: g z8 ^! x
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 * K+ S5 v' Q' z* N5 w	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX5 A! K9 F3 N1 C- W! G. J. I$ t
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS) W0 O9 E& Q( C5 _" W5 P m	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac% u7 q; ?+ I" N( a- `
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE , i, B5 a0 a9 I' w; m4 \|/ _	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac & F% o2 `! B( O4 t
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma ! `& [( e9 f+ a5 [% \$ q v( t& n+ A	• 1990 Toyota Tercel 6 o3 `' W& n" ]) g/ w3 O) p, f c
• 2002 Toyota Tundra 4 ?- p* g+ D0 \5 `' I& W8 r# G	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac1 {9 Z; y, j' Z# w* ~
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE 8 O; E' N# a/ L* L6 e' p	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac, i# \|1 b' T: b: ^* j1 r
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE* _) {& N$ \|4 d7 i	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger+ m5 K0 d, V$ d% i0 z
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL# Z+ x, B% \! ~. E& O+ d	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base ( L- ~4 C7 X# `6 s, z4 n' g
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited 1 R2 D4 u0 l% P7 B8 {	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac9 D; K a3 a2 ]6 h% S
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT 4 i2 l2 C X) P# C9 m	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 V+ ~, m3 N* U9 A) \|
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE 4 M. z* u6 o" p- T% B w	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE
• 2001 Toyota Prius & m7 S1 \% ^6 m7 e	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX4 t- H; ~' }; q9 Q- Z/ q
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma * g4 P5 E7 s3 D( ]# T0 d" e	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton # [* ~- _+ D+ g
• 2001 Toyota Tundra k2 s0 p' ^) K% b3 ~3 ]0 _+ E5 D7 _	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger & f# ?7 O" v* n
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE 3 H# T& D$ ^ ?; C, \|3 c$ `	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX* u4 W/ T- z- j- _3 Z
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited ) Q) P" `1 }" Q9 e- U% _# a( C	• 1989 Toyota Camry ' N$ g. X( h7 a8 v
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR58 V5 @" R2 Z; p! T9 B	• 1989 Toyota Tercel 8 D! Q$ _! _9 j3 q7 t4 k4 U+ a
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE % f7 Y! \|% t; s( E" d	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX" Y& \ c8 Z/ h1 j4 t7 C
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE/ S4 b/ i8 \| {# A, Z P	• 1989 Toyota Pickup % V- X8 q$ B/ l! g
• 2001 Toyota ECHO / ^! g2 t3 S l1 W	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 & I, I% Y6 E2 B; j8 N8 W
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS ) d2 J2 U$ s7 [: K	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger ( u3 q% W* D3 ^/ C
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE ; u$ j& }; B6 p% w$ L3 G) U	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ' L' @+ `/ Y+ x6 z( b2 Y' z$ s
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 / t1 M$ s$ o1 x6 t* I& ~	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel) `" }1 s8 F c0 q
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner 6 o+ [- ~: G" I2 u7 i+ j	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX ) M1 a" ^4 {& X& v4 I' F6 J
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS1 v4 R" p U8 {$ c	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ* z2 f5 {, v! {8 i' A3 Q3 w3 F
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S ' V* I* k+ Z1 K* g5 e: R- ~# ]) B	• 1988 Toyota Camry # a) n% I; K K# F9 G7 B/ \ I' c
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner/ E4 L/ h4 ~' M, H5 E	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 6 ?9 F1 P( c2 P7 Q
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 & v# J& w7 A4 V7 k$ S% B2 p1 H	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger: b: P3 ], ~) Y+ b2 ~1 B
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE 4 v8 p) ^: a Y; \1 Q& W, e	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX& A7 n0 H# a- W t* t% p
• 2001 Toyota Highlander 9 q7 c' w' J1 A$ X9 M	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac / Z9 U1 t7 ]2 P/ C7 h- S' y
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited # M0 E1 Z2 I! h( l" f	• 1988 Toyota Van DX/ e: r1 P/ J/ j# N$ N5 O, T
• 2000 Toyota ECHO ! N7 ?" h0 U: K& h	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger. {$ R; Y- ?8 G
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma & o& I% C4 [% c( c; E	• 1988 Toyota Tercel * m( c/ t) \|) E7 f/ x ]
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT: w4 \|) j3 C8 T) r7 T+ O	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE ! q' y$ J4 f) M. T# [
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE 5 C5 w/ o- X( r( F% X8 n- s$ \|	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window6 p( J, f3 p% k l6 }2 E" X% m
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 2 }! i! A. \# Y# e }, z ~	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton ( W5 y" s. y' `, H* u: i
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner & c- t3 E9 A. R	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser # o, }' C5 C `5 n+ i$ \|' m; l
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR57 _+ J0 e2 c* N5 [4 J4 l$ R	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5 9 n* x( w" T! W, V9 v9 D# [
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited / ^" u4 }4 k2 [' t	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger1 k& b8 E0 M' e! y3 u% p
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE2 n6 f6 d1 O) m' F5 a( M5 q7 Q" D d	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B , C) H1 \' n0 r/ ^# u2 \' I
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS & g, \5 W( [3 p	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 0 w6 ?( H4 ?( I/ T* V9 Y
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE$ x% j0 p7 h; C! [3 \|	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger) K: ^! R c. c3 f& a
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara u* O5 y1 }; W' b: y1 {& ]	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 , W: v+ ~( \- B; b/ Z6 K( L
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited ( z. i& U) W& i3 a	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX9 _9 w% {! X, S9 R0 J; J
• 2000 Toyota Tundra , P4 s# y7 [1 ?2 o0 m2 r* G	• 1988 Toyota Van LE + Q# Q+ C3 D$ _$ _) e
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS0 x( m/ K+ g, j6 u, d) }! B	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 d. h0 A4 B' V! p7 Q r3 L; K
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE ; f, @, j$ O& H9 z3 H	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR59 o _' Z$ U! K( b9 T
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited " P- \|7 J' q9 `8 Q9 G: f+ n	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE ( F4 _: i% f0 {# E
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner ; w$ Z+ [% L v, {. N1 Q# s	• 1987 Toyota Van DX 8 _& ]2 e, w' [, j2 w. P; h
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE + \+ Z/ \- w3 u4 n( a# ?- `' a	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window . s( @. p/ \|/ b
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR58 u% u7 v; H& y0 a7 l7 i	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton. B+ _, \1 A7 [' I1 C, G" ]
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE 1 J2 \$ g: q$ z! q: ^3 m$ q	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR51 X8 q; Q4 k; m
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL * \|4 `8 k# h! `' \, V9 ~+ \|& Z5 C	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX . R) v3 L5 l% t3 i& a4 {
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 1 x9 X, q8 M$ T" c0 Y& ?$ J	• 1987 Toyota Tercel . J. T. h6 ~/ r1 _0 \" }
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE ) F% B. ]- E3 P$ s" [, c7 B% C: e	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX B7 b: i5 }3 F7 h7 C! o1 }
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 9 q6 A- a- ~" \, ?+ D6 _1 j	• 1987 Toyota Van LE3 V, ?6 E" E" {8 @- a
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE 2 o% s% T5 r7 v" N5 o* `	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel 2 W% j( E) j% x2 u2 O( `
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE% o1 N' B8 s0 B	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX9 W e" k! L. h& m+ D# O
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma 2 @! d) w+ B3 ^2 }6 ~	• 1987 Toyota Pickup # e; j4 \|2 _' }. A: z! U0 G
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS; K+ ]9 Q" \|4 ~$ b9 Y5 q	• 1986 Toyota Van LE ! ]% T F3 }/ Z3 E. X# J X7 z) @
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE 2 Y/ \: j) Z3 j	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser & }0 ^/ g+ K4 v: R" a- h
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner1 y/ @: u4 G/ Y! ~	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel ; f0 E- @& Y; y- M, h( h6 H
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 , _( h3 Z# f' Q; s9 R" h) q9 U! ~	• 1986 Toyota Van DX 9 A! s* u9 F9 v4 F5 S
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited 3 d- G$ i( u, a! o	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window % H# S) ~" z' D* T1 _6 a* K% k* u
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE+ W0 C' L+ u' c' g	• 1985 Toyota Van B# I6 E: `) r; _9 j2 D5 j9 l8 U
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE- \1 O; H6 e# ]- [2 H4 G	• 1985 Toyota Van LE0 R) p5 m2 T" [" X1 N
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL& p9 h% k: m% f	• 1985 Toyota Van DX) V) A7 w# K" {4 E
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE " m5 y+ g2 w& P0 Y4 r	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser ) P3 G1 Q! \|7 S/ I5 p& s! G, d6 O/ h
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited$ S) T8 E* @- q	• 1984 Toyota Van DX ( g6 a+ i8 Z, h3 M5 k
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE 3 A0 R# T! l# f4 P7 q5 u	• 1984 Toyota Supra ( V* h0 i+ ?; r: ^( G8 n7 M/ k U
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE ' r' e, u5 }0 s- c	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX + K) D" Q$ c2 z8 ]1 ?/ F
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE3 Y( h+ }; v" k	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser 8 }1 v( k5 M& _) W9 t8 e# H/ k
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited # A. ]8 t2 C, u	• 1984 Toyota Cressida + s0 C; A1 Q" p, c
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS - }4 D# E o2 w8 ?& K7 D	• 1984 Toyota Van ! i4 E; _% ]0 X% ]5 V, C2 r
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE1 z: ^& R" y( b	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE, T! y7 t# K# R, s
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner & q3 t d7 i' A% @: }4 r	• 1984 Toyota Van LE ' h2 y$ C$ J" g7 D+ x. {
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE0 ~& K+ R0 T4 _9 ?/ M% T4 @* r& }	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE' \. M% M S8 V, K. x
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX " w) `& s$ }" n8 \' O+ }$ {, M	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5! P3 U( S, E- v8 a
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5) R1 ^1 X! E0 t# T5 q	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX0 O) O$ Q1 E* l
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE; i! m5 k1 E, n$ D6 \|	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE ; m. G1 j& p8 J% O0 A$ r4 D
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE' \7 a3 v! ]8 s3 i: K2 n	• 1983 Toyota Supra , D' p1 H `/ \* p/ l6 j
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma ' \/ `; Y2 p) E! B, e	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 `+ @. m. v( P% ^. X% @( F& F
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL ; x( v$ q; i2 t	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX0 v( b8 ^% p& ?* ~2 D( n5 x, C4 }2 S) C
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE / M1 ]5 S. P4 [	• 1983 Toyota Cressida 2 X+ r6 w3 I. W s
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 8 s4 z3 T& \|3 C7 {7 D	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT y8 O* d0 `% x* {- q/ `
• 1998 Toyota T-100 . Z. p$ S# c/ [* n	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 i- `: O3 o* K: F' J2 m2 C
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited ( N5 F' \|2 P% C; o) t8 C! ]	• 1982 Toyota Cressida 1 D$ t6 Q; B: a! {8 L/ R! ]$ c! C
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE) W, @2 ~% }5 ^. z5 A2 J	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX 3 m, `( c6 Y$ o. [. h( z
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 / \; H" S' W/ O2 }	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST7 ]; ?0 J! u. T1 [9 t
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5 5 i# Y# D* h* K8 i* ~ _	• 1982 Toyota Tercel . i {, I" A3 d
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX * B9 L7 p9 N8 ?0 r6 `: J- B	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 9 X* `& E8 k7 h% m3 a, Y7 ?! U6 m
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma . a: [1 }/ `* V) y; C& A) B+ M	• 1981 Toyota Tercel 4 N0 d( T0 G& z8 d/ N
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS$ @8 H4 z R0 J+ t$ E	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 6 ~6 C& c2 _* l& ?4 s- ?5 \|
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX ; D# ]' S& K% Z4 B; \, I	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 u) x1 G6 [0 L l
• 1997 Toyota T-100 ! V4 B \- g p' ]8 E# _0 c	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX& u# O- h0 b7 U8 Z- x
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited" _7 F, Z; s' I. ` H: V7 R	• 1981 Toyota Cressida & r1 e* L' u+ B( \|! X
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE + R1 \|$ T0 _& b	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT 9 j% T' f. \0 ^- j, k0 l7 k& {8 S3 o
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5' `, a' V5 j; R* }" L5 K% _2 W% V	• 1980 Toyota Corolla 6 J2 [ E3 r( p$ L" ]
• 1997 Toyota Corolla : U% ]5 f% b) W	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 Q' S" F2 X7 ^1 E6 \
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5 7 `3 {/ j4 I" R; m3 g& M3 C	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe+ l; @+ \1 ^3 {" f9 B
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL, u: M( g5 u) U4 X+ c& ?	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX \) {9 q% l' k# I, S
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE( Y4 c8 p) Y6 C8 g& x4 T	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST . B5 ^8 h. G& s; w9 @
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner * D& l: D+ C4 Z9 N) ~# R	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury( R+ Q# i& O- g ^+ ^. e8 n( o7 z
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE9 S- y$ R( I, K; v; Q	• 1980 Toyota Tercel " A5 D/ B. }( ~
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE 9 t Z6 d7 l' c4 \! v2 l	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5* q+ ^* s% p' s; _
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX / n- j0 H4 D, c: O' S i	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe0 n, t. W; z6 H* n& G- n
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE3 U& K$ [5 x$ \; {: U- Z9 U9 p	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5 7 y) b4 }8 f/ n6 E% O
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5. t2 T8 O& \|5 J) u8 ^

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表 - F& h0 O: C7 v

' o& d/ f+ w1 K/ S" r" ~如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
; C( k& h% S2 xToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE( p: h/ w, q/ e$ s# h/ ]
• 1997 Toyota Camry CE7 R! h2 i$ ~# i7 m$ o! d2 B
&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表 , C% W6 r8 ?7 T4 C6 Z
April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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5 ~, k- `4 X! p7 Z% t* X6 c
) p l7 w' R6 S2 y: `! O佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
2 i- V% b& @; U) P8 k# [
5 S0 k# J4 Q, L2 _2 P* v, K1 q. G9 _由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：1 y0 ^) P8 }7 |& a5 D
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1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；/ h& o$ Q" w7 J4 x' f
2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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